DUST Search - Suggested Speed Changes (Scout Buff)

Hagintora wrote:

TL;DR *EDITED: Changed Sprint Speed to 35%, Added racial speed variants to all suits

Without going into to why this is necessary (as there are many other threads that have already covered this in detail), I propose this idea to the current dynamic.

First, make every Frame suit .9m faster that the one below it. So Medium Frame Suits would be .9m faster than Heavies, and Light Frames would be .9m faster than Mediums. Using Amarr as the baseline for suit speeds, racial speed bonuses would be thus: Amarr (+0m), Caldari (+.10m), Gallente (+.20m), Minmatar (+.30m).

Second, increase the speed for the Commando, Assault, and Scout Suits by .3m in relation to their corresponding Frames.

Third, reduce sprint speed from plus 40% base movement to plus 35% base movement.

Finally, increase crouch speed to 50% base movement.

So it would look like this:

Heavy Frames

Amarr: Base Movement - 3.65, Sprint - 4.93(5.17 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.29, Crouch - 1.83, Crouch Strafe - 1.64

Caldari: Base Movement - 3.75, Sprint - 5.06(5.32 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.38, Crouch - 1.88, Crouch Strafe - 1.69

Gallente: Base Movement - 3.85, Sprint - 5.2(5.46 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.47, Crouch - 1.93, Crouch Strafe - 1.73

Minmatar: Base Movement - 3.95, Sprint - 5.33(5.60 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.56, Crouch - 1.98, Crouch Strafe - 1.78

Medium Frames

Amarr: Base Movement 4.55, Sprint -6.14(6.45 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.1, Crouch - 2.28, Crouch Strafe - 2.05

Caldari: Base Movement - 4.65, Sprint - 6.28 (6.59 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.19, Crouch - 2.33, Crouch Strafe - 2.09

Gallente: Base Movement - 4.75, Sprint - 6.41 (6.73 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.28, Crouch - 2.38, Crouch Strafe - 2.14

Minmatar: Base Movement - 4.85, Sprint -6.55(6.87 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.37, Crouch - 2.43, Crouch Strafe - 2.18

Light Frames

Amarr: Base Movement 5.45, Sprint -7.38(7.73 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.91, Crouch - 2.73, Crouch Strafe - 2.45

Caldari: Base Movement - 5.55, Sprint - 7.49 (7.87 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.00, Crouch - 2.78, Crouch Strafe - 2.50

Gallente: Base Movement - 5.65, Sprint - 7.63 (8.01 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.09, Crouch - 2.83, Crouch Strafe - 2.54

Minmatar: Base Movement - 5.75, Sprint -7.76(8.15 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.18, Crouch - 2.88, Crouch Strafe - 2.59

Specialty Suits:

Commando

Amarr: Base Movement 3.95, Sprint -5.33(5.60 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.56, Crouch - 1.98, Crouch Strafe - 1.78

Caldari: Base Movement - 4.05, Sprint - 5.47 (5.74 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.65, Crouch - 2.03, Crouch Strafe - 1.82

Gallente: Base Movement - 4.15, Sprint - 5.60 (5.88 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.74, Crouch - 2.08, Crouch Strafe - 1.87

Minmatar: Base Movement - 4.25, Sprint -5.74(6.02 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.83, Crouch - 2.13, Crouch Strafe - 1.91

Assault

Amarr: Base Movement 4.85, Sprint -6.55(6.87 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.37, Crouch - 2.43, Crouch Strafe - 2.18

Caldari: Base Movement - 4.95, Sprint - 6.68 (7.02 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.46, Crouch - 2.48, Crouch Strafe - 2.23

Gallente: Base Movement - 5.05, Sprint - 6.82 (7.16 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.55, Crouch - 2.53, Crouch Strafe - 2.27

Minmatar: Base Movement - 5.15, Sprint -6.95(7.30 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.64, Crouch - 2.58, Crouch Strafe - 2.32

Scout

Amarr: Base Movement 5.75, Sprint -7.76(8.15 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.18, Crouch - 2.88, Crouch Strafe - 2.59

Caldari: Base Movement - 5.85, Sprint - 7.90 (8.29 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.27, Crouch - 2.93, Crouch Strafe - 2.63

Gallente: Base Movement - 5.95, Sprint - 8.03 (8.43 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.36, Crouch - 2.98, Crouch Strafe - 2.68

Minmatar: Base Movement - 6.05, Sprint -8.17(8.56 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.45, Crouch - 3.03, Crouch Strafe - 2.72

Now this should give Scouts back their speed advantage, and draw a definitive line between all thee Frames in regards to movement, with only a few changes to the other suits; Most notably the Mediums Frames dropping to current Logi speeds, and the Minnie Assault dropping by .15m. The reduction of Sprint Speed from 40% to 35% allows the Scout to have its speed buff, but still keep it under the threshold where the system can't handle it. When CCP fixes the issue of Scouts moving too fast to render properly, they can bump the sprint speed back to 40%.

There still is the problem of GalScouts being able to out Speed Tank the Minnie, which I don't like, but the only solution I can think (that doesn't take away from what they already have), is to add a 2% bonus to Sprint Speed to the Minmatar Light Frame Skill. But then we'd have to figure out what bonuses to add to the other Frame Suits just to keep it balanced.


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Sunara Detra Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:58:00 - [1] - Quote Hagintora wrote: TL;DR EDITED: Changed Sprint Speed to 35%, Added racial speed variants to all suits Without going into to why this is necessary (as there are many other threads that have already covered this in detail), I propose this idea to the current dynamic. First, make every Frame suit .9m faster that the one below it. So Medium Frame Suits would be .9m faster than Heavies, and Light Frames would be .9m faster than Mediums. Using Amarr as the baseline for suit speeds, racial speed bonuses would be thus: Amarr (+0m), Caldari (+.10m), Gallente (+.20m), Minmatar (+.30m). Second, increase the speed for the Commando, Assault, and Scout Suits by .3m in relation to their corresponding Frames. Third, reduce sprint speed from plus 40% base movement to plus 35% base movement. Finally, increase crouch speed to 50% base movement. So it would look like this: Heavy Frames* Amarr: Base Movement - 3.65, Sprint - 4.93(5.17 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.29, Crouch - 1.83, Crouch Strafe - 1.64 Caldari: Base Movement - 3.75, Sprint - 5.06(5.32 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.38, Crouch - 1.88, Crouch Strafe - 1.69 Gallente: Base Movement - 3.85, Sprint - 5.2(5.46 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.47, Crouch - 1.93, Crouch Strafe - 1.73 Minmatar: Base Movement - 3.95, Sprint - 5.33(5.60 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.56, Crouch - 1.98, Crouch Strafe - 1.78 Medium Frames Amarr: Base Movement 4.55, Sprint -6.14(6.45 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.1, Crouch - 2.28, Crouch Strafe - 2.05 Caldari: Base Movement - 4.65, Sprint - 6.28 (6.59 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.19, Crouch - 2.33, Crouch Strafe - 2.09 Gallente: Base Movement - 4.75, Sprint - 6.41 (6.73 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.28, Crouch - 2.38, Crouch Strafe - 2.14 Minmatar: Base Movement - 4.85, Sprint -6.55(6.87 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.37, Crouch - 2.43, Crouch Strafe - 2.18 Light Frames Amarr: Base Movement 5.45, Sprint -7.38(7.73 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.91, Crouch - 2.73, Crouch Strafe - 2.45 Caldari: Base Movement - 5.55, Sprint - 7.49 (7.87 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.00, Crouch - 2.78, Crouch Strafe - 2.50 Gallente: Base Movement - 5.65, Sprint - 7.63 (8.01 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.09, Crouch - 2.83, Crouch Strafe - 2.54 Minmatar: Base Movement - 5.75, Sprint -7.76(8.15 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.18, Crouch - 2.88, Crouch Strafe - 2.59 Specialty Suits: Commando Amarr: Base Movement 3.95, Sprint -5.33(5.60 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.56, Crouch - 1.98, Crouch Strafe - 1.78 Caldari: Base Movement - 4.05, Sprint - 5.47 (5.74 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.65, Crouch - 2.03, Crouch Strafe - 1.82 Gallente: Base Movement - 4.15, Sprint - 5.60 (5.88 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.74, Crouch - 2.08, Crouch Strafe - 1.87 Minmatar: Base Movement - 4.25, Sprint -5.74(6.02 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 3.83, Crouch - 2.13, Crouch Strafe - 1.91 Assault Amarr: Base Movement 4.85, Sprint -6.55(6.87 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.37, Crouch - 2.43, Crouch Strafe - 2.18 Caldari: Base Movement - 4.95, Sprint - 6.68 (7.02 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.46, Crouch - 2.48, Crouch Strafe - 2.23 Gallente: Base Movement - 5.05, Sprint - 6.82 (7.16 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.55, Crouch - 2.53, Crouch Strafe - 2.27 Minmatar: Base Movement - 5.15, Sprint -6.95(7.30 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 4.64, Crouch - 2.58, Crouch Strafe - 2.32 Scout Amarr: Base Movement 5.75, Sprint -7.76(8.15 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.18, Crouch - 2.88, Crouch Strafe - 2.59 Caldari: Base Movement - 5.85, Sprint - 7.90 (8.29 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.27, Crouch - 2.93, Crouch Strafe - 2.63 Gallente: Base Movement - 5.95, Sprint - 8.03 (8.43 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.36, Crouch - 2.98, Crouch Strafe - 2.68 Minmatar: Base Movement - 6.05, Sprint -8.17(8.56 with Lvl 5 Biotics), Strafe - 5.45, Crouch - 3.03, Crouch Strafe - 2.72 Now this should give Scouts back their speed advantage, and draw a definitive line between all thee Frames in regards to movement, with only a few changes to the other suits; Most notably the Mediums Frames dropping to current Logi speeds, and the Minnie Assault dropping by .15m. The reduction of Sprint Speed from 40% to 35% allows the Scout to have its speed buff, but still keep it under the threshold where the system can't handle it. When CCP fixes the issue of Scouts moving too fast to render properly, they can bump the sprint speed back to 40%. There still is the problem of GalScouts being able to out Speed Tank the Minnie, which I don't like, but the only solution I can think (that doesn't take away from what they already have), is to add a 2% bonus to Sprint Speed to the Minmatar Light Frame Skill. But then we'd have to figure out what bonuses to add to the other Frame Suits just to keep it balanced. GûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûô